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标题: 汉瓦浅说“招标”与“腐败” [打印本页]

作者: 汉瓦    时间: 2008-10-19 17:03
标题: 汉瓦浅说“招标”与“腐败”
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align="center"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 22pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体">汉瓦浅说“招标”与“腐败”<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体">一、“因招标而产生腐败”是一个错误的感受。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">政府在不同场合不预余力推广着“招标”,显然,他们看中的不仅仅是招标是一种采购方式,也看中了招标可以为“预防腐败”建功立业的作用。于是乎,不管适合不适合,“招标”在中国的许多交易活动中被强制推行。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">希望通过招标来“预防腐败”,然而,令人遗憾的是,仿佛事与愿违,腐败却在招标中屡见不鲜。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">我们似乎感受到了“招标”与“腐败”是一对孪生的兄弟;我们似乎感受到了“腐败”是因为“招标”而生的,因为“招标”的存在才会使“腐败”频发。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">为什么呢?是招标错了?还是我们政府错了?<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">如果不考虑细枝末节,谁也没有错!招标没有错!政府也没有错!是我们的感受错了!<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">当今社会的开放、信息的公开,让我们有了更多了解和细察的“腐败”的机会,但如果我们仍以旧有思绪去感受今天的信息,得出的结论难免会是失真的。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体">二、招标中产生腐败的根源并不在招标本身。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">招标是一种采购方式。与其它采购方式一样,招标中也一样可能(或可以)产生腐败。其实,推而广之,任何有利益产生的领域都有可能产生腐败。所以说招标中产生腐败的根源并不在于招标本身。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">从事招标投标的许多人都看到了目前招标中存在的种种腐败现象,于是就有一些人就把腐败归于招标本身,显然这种观点是偏颇的,我个人觉得也是对招标的不公平。因此,对于许多人所说的因为目前的招标制度而产生腐败的观点,我除了深表遗憾外,我还要对招标本身深表同情。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">招标中确实产生了不少腐败,那如果不招标就没有了腐败吗?转型时期的震荡、粗犷式的高速发展,深刻变化着的不成熟社会,都是腐败频发的诱因。诱因之后的根源或许已有许多专家学者已经或者正在探究清晰了。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">同样的,把招标人不负责的行为,统统归究于招标制度,也是对招标制度的不公平。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">任何制度都不可能是完美无缺的,但如果因为这个制度有缺点,就在执行制度时让自己堕落进而产生腐败,都怪罪于这个制度,我看也说不过去。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体">三、招标客观上具有“预防腐败”的功能。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">招标客观上具有“预防腐败”的功能,招标的二大属性之一说明了招标具有“预防腐败”的功能:一是经济属性,主要体现在节约交易成本和获得优质价廉的采购物上。二是社会属性,主要体现在寻求公平正义的社会秩序和预防腐败上。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">公开、竞争和监督是招标活动的核心,也因为有了这个核心,客观上才使招标有了“预防腐败”的功能。为此《联合国反腐公约》中的预防措施中特别提到了公共采购应当采用合适的采购制度。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">招标确实是一种采购方式,但由于它所具有的“预防腐败”的功能,因此,许多强制要求采用招标方式进行的采购活动,或多或少都看中了它的这个功能。由此,我们可以更完整的认为,招标是一种有“预防腐败”功能的采购方式;也由此,我们可以认定,强制招标的目的之一是“预防腐败”。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体">四、招标中众多当事人的分权有利于“预防腐败”。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">招标采购与直接采购相比,当事人增多,增加了招标机构、评标委员会(成员)、招标监管部门等。各方权力和责任交织、权利和义务制约,使得“一支笔”腐败的概率大大降低。虽然“集中性腐败”会因为这些当事人的成员的增多加之“监管失察”,而成为“分散性腐败”。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">但是,招标这种预防腐败的作用,不能因为“监管失察”造成的腐败“分散”而抹杀。否则,理论上解释不了为什么几百年来许多国家都在实行的强制招标?实践上也行不通,是“天知地知你知我知”有利于预防腐败,还是“天知地知你知我知,还有他们知”有利于预防腐败?<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">抛开“政治的”、“社会的”、“国情的”的等各种复杂的“腐败”根源和因素,纯粹从经济学或行为学角度看,招标中当事人的增多,不仅不会削弱“预防腐败”的作用,反而是增加了“预防腐败”的功能。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">同时,招标程序中众多当事人的“分权”可以改变“绝对的权力产生绝对的腐败”的弊端,有利于“预防腐败”。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体">五、招标的核心是“公开”,公开有利于“预防腐败”。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">招标程序中众多当事人的存在,使得公开性难于隐匿,当事人之间互相制衡,腐败难度相对加大,因而有利于“预防腐败”。如果说,由于招标的当事人较多,就说行政监管的范围和难度增大。那么,我们就无法解释,许多社会制度设计中的“监督”、” “审计”、“监察”等程序,甚至无法解释“三权鼎立”和“廉政公署”的合理性。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">公开就是透明,而透明是预防腐败最好的良药啊。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体">六、招标虽具有“预防腐败”的作用,但不能轻视监管的力度。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">招标具有采购的功能,也有“预防腐败”的作用,但并不是说我们的监管可以放任自流了,招标活动中,众多环节、众多当事人的存在,都需要监管的,招标制度的设计本意是让程序的公正和当事人的互相制约达到“预防腐败”目的的,这样可以减轻社会管理的成本。但是,在中国,由于众所周知的原因,这种理由状态还有待各方继续努力,因此,监管的力度丝毫不能放松。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">就象“有人的地方就有江湖”一样,腐败作为全世界存在的问题,不管你的制度设计得如何完善,依然会有可能产生的。为此,《采购指南》和招标文件范本写入了反腐败条款。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">由于招标程序的众多,期间又掺杂着“技术”性的许多知识,使得以“技术”的复杂性干扰“监管”的可能性容易得逞,增加了“预防腐败”的难度,这客观上要求在招标中要更加重视“预防腐败”。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体">七、招标 “预防腐败”的作用具有明显的局限性。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">招标的“预防腐败”的作用,也有局限性。预防腐败,仅限于招标阶段是不够的。标前的环境、标后的管理,都是“监管”应该插入的地方。指望靠“招标”一个将军是把不住大门的。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">事实上,招标中的“腐败”许多是由于人们奢望仅靠“招标”这把锁来预防而忽视了在其他方面进行“预防”而造成的。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">由于只局限于“招标”环节的“预防腐败”,而不重视 “标后”合同履行的监督、不重视与招标相关的其他方面(对监管的监督、对诚信的监督等等)“预防腐败”,依据“短板理论”,“预防腐败”的效果将会在最短的那块板的缺口中流失。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">再者,不规范的招标同样也会给腐败以可趁之机,这和任何不规范的采购活动一样的。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体">八、不能因对招标“预防腐败”作用的失望而抹杀其功能或目的。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">中国的招标确实问题重重,预防腐败的作用似乎也不大,有人看之或许感觉已是腐败丛生了。旧病未去,新疾已到,招标规则的制订者万般无奈于不断更新“防腐防火墙”,而腐败者却在不断升级他们的“腐败病毒”加之,制度不全、诚信欠缺、监督失察、市场封锁、地方保护。。。。。。,都使腐败有可趁之机,久而久之,许多人已对招标的“预防腐败”作用失望至极。但这不是招标本身的错,是制度之错、诚信之错、失察之错啊!<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">如果抹杀招标的“预防腐败”功能,认为招标的目的之一不是为了“预防腐败”,那么我们可以取消《招标投法》了,直接在《合同法》增加相应相应的条款算了。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体">九、走过场的“形式招标”,是由于腐败土壤的存在而存在的<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">许多走过场的“形式”招标在,依赖于腐败土壤(制度不全、诚信欠缺、监督失察、市场封锁、地方保护等等)的存在而存在。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">由于腐败土壤存在,有些人为私利把招标搞成走过场或者规避招标,这是贪官!<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">由于腐败土壤存在,有些人对招标失望了,不负责的搞走过场的“形式”招标,这是昏官!<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">由于腐败土壤存在,招标的经济功能大打折扣,有些人进而规避招标,自行采购,造成被迫违法,但这是清官!<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">这都不是招标本身的错,是土壤错了!<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体">十、招标的阳光前景需要铲除腐败土壤<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">招标作为一种采购制度,应该说是有其科学性的,其 “预防腐败”的功能和作用也是明显的。或许对于这种作用我们也尚未看到有多大效果,反而看到了许多不愿意看到的东西,但是这并不表明这种作用的不存在。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">值得思考的是,我们如何让这种作用发挥更大功能。相信有识之士已思考良多,有关部门也研究多时了。个人认为其实就是,首先要铲除招标中的腐败土壤,当土壤不存在的时候,腐败会在阳光下显形,那些贪官敢贪吗?那些昏官还敢昏吗?那些清官还会违法吗?<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">当腐败土壤铲除的时候,招标自然而然的规范起来了,短板也会一块块地接长了,招标这个“水桶”将会滴水现象将大为减少。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">不过话说回来,说起来容易做起来难——“知易行难”啊!<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312"><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312">——以上是汉瓦对“招标”与“腐败”的几点思考。想粗浅地勾勒出了其中的几点关系,但遗憾的是,由于水平有限,可能有许多错误,也尚未有什么具体的成熟良策。贴于此,还望有人批评指正,如能作抛砖引玉之用,那也足够了。<span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></span></p>
作者: gzztitc    时间: 2008-10-19 20:26
楼主引用法律法规说明自己观点的另一文章,是:

“招标与预防腐败”,看看法律是怎么说的

http://bbs.chinabidding.com/read.php?tid=18957&keyword=


本人以为:这是一篇独立思考,深入分析的文章。

当然,观点是否正确,就请大家议论啦!

本人以为,有句话值得商榷:『由于腐败土壤存在,招标的经济功能大打折扣,有些人进而规避招标,自行采购,造成被迫违法,但这是清官!』
作者: 冰临城下    时间: 2008-10-20 09:53
从采用招标的的木来说,先开始是从规范市场,遏制腐败而诞生的。但是虽着招投标的深入,是腐败逐渐滋生蔓延。各种与招投标相关的词语诞生:围标、串标、暗中指定、打击其它投标人、抢其他投标人文件等等,这些难道不是因为招投标也引发的事情吗?

   可以说引发腐败的方式和渠道很多,但是招投标是其中的一种,是招投标的滋生物和蔓延物。
作者: plumliu    时间: 2008-10-20 09:56
看了后,对招标与腐败的关系有了更进一步的认识,学习了 [s:1]
作者: Laochan    时间: 2008-10-20 10:09
<p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 32pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">拜读汉瓦大作后,老朽将其文中的标题略作修改以表明老朽的观点。由于最近忙于《机电成套设备采购国际竞争性招标文件(第一册)》的编制,不能作具体的论述,还请汉瓦先生和各位同仁谅解。红色是汉瓦先生的原标题。黑色是老朽的标题。</span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"center\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 22pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">一、“因招标而产生腐败”是一个错误的感受。 <span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">一、“因招标而产生腐败”的原因之一是由于错误的招标政策所致。</span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">  </span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">二、招标中产生腐败的根源并不在招标本身。 <span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">二、招标中产生腐败的根源并不在招标本身,而在于错误的招标政策和腐败人的道德所致。</span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">  </span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">三、招标客观上具有“预防腐败”的功能。 <span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">三、招标客观上并不具有“预防腐败”的功能。而恰恰相反,招标中必须预防腐败。</span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">  </span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">四、招标中众多当事人的分权有利于“预防腐败”。 <span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">四、招标中众多当事人的分权有利于“分散腐败”,并使招标人的腐败行为更具隐蔽性。</span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">  </span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">五、招标的核心是“公开”,公开有利于“预防腐败”。 <span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">五、招标的核心是维护招标人的权益。只有维护招标人权益的招标才能成为真正意义上的招标。</span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">  </span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">六、招标虽具有“预防腐败”的作用,但不能轻视监管的力度。 <span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">六、招标并不具有“预防腐败”的作用,因此,要加强对招标的监管力度。<span lang=\"EN-US\"> </span></span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">  </span></span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">七、招标 “预防腐败”的作用具有明显的局限性。 <span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">七、认为招标 有“预防腐败”的作用,具有明显的误导性。</span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">  </span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">八、不能因对招标“预防腐败”作用的失望而抹杀其功能或目的。 <span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">八、虽然招标并无“预防腐败”作用,但不能抹杀其功能或目的。</span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">  <span lang=\"EN-US\"> </span></span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">九、走过场的“形式招标”,是由于腐败土壤的存在而存在的 <span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">九、走过场的“形式招标”,是由于错误的招标政策所致。</span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">  <span lang=\"EN-US\"> </span></span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">十、招标的阳光前景需要铲除腐败土壤。<span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></b></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">十、招标的阳光前景需要有正确的招标政策。</span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\">(请注意:土壤是不能铲除的。)</span></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28&#46;1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-pagination: widow-orphan\" align=\"left\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体; mso-hansi-font-family: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt\"></span></b></p>
作者: flashman9911    时间: 2008-10-20 10:41
汉瓦和Laochan 的观点都非常值得学习!
作者: 唐淳    时间: 2009-5-23 10:55
看了前辈们的文章
本人受益匪浅
觉得知识是 永远学不完的
在这种场合下我都无权说话
作为学生
感到自己还很幼稚

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作者: sdwf    时间: 2009-5-23 22:43
看高手“华山论剑”很过瘾,在高手的讨论中我们边看边学,简单明了,便于记忆!
作者: yangjing    时间: 2009-5-25 10:51
在当今社会,招标与腐败已经到达“相辅相成,密不可分”的境界,在招标的大环境中也让腐败得以滋生···我们学习书本上的招标,已经变成理想状态下的招标,公开,公平,公正,也已经变成一种口号,打着正义的旗帜,为腐败摇旗呐喊···可见理想和现实的差距是多么的遥远···
作者: bidboy    时间: 2009-5-25 10:56
我觉得招标中的公开、公平、公正主要是采购范畴的,不是防止腐败范畴的。这就好比武器,可以用来打敌人,也可以用来打自己人,还可以用来自杀。都是这一支枪。
作者: yangjing    时间: 2009-5-25 11:49
不管是什么范畴···它都违背了招投标本身的意愿···这不是小打小闹···弄不好会出人命的···
作者: bidboy    时间: 2009-5-25 12:00
引用第10楼yangjing于2009-05-25 11:49发表的  :
不管是什么范畴···它都违背了招投标本身的意愿···这不是小打小闹···弄不好会出人命的···

是的,关键是拿枪的人。大家学习一下毛主席著作吧。
作者: 米飞米    时间: 2009-8-8 20:34
嗯,学习了
作者: xiangzichina    时间: 2009-10-17 09:12
学习了
作者: 13sou    时间: 2009-10-17 10:27
看高手“华山论剑”很过瘾,在高手的讨论中我们边看边学,简单明了,便于记忆!
作者: 磨古力    时间: 2010-5-28 14:54
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作者: zc_ztb    时间: 2012-6-23 17:47
我有一点不能明白的是,为什么在讨论腐败的话题时,围观者大都表现的这么慷慨激昂、义正辞严呢?是因为自己从来都没有“腐败”过,还是因为从来没有机会能腐败呢?唉,可叹我们是人言轻微的一般工作人员,可叹我们是招投标体制下部门领导手中的一颗棋子,需要坚持原则的时候一定要坚持,不需要的时候一定要灵活,身不由己,是我们一线工作人员最大的悲哀,呵,也许,这才是我们痛恨腐败的重要原因。说实话,对于腐败现象,我真的很迷惘,到底什么是腐败呢?相信每个人都有每个人不同的理解和看法。“政绩”里面包含着多少“腐败”,谁又能分的清?
作者: dianzima    时间: 2012-6-27 10:16
腐败的根源在于缺乏人民群众的监督。
作者: hetan719    时间: 2012-6-28 09:57
腐败不是应招标而生,也不会因招标而灭!
又一次回顾汉瓦的文章,依然觉得很受启发!
作者: 王毅青    时间: 2012-6-28 10:03
回顾08年的讨论,水平就是高啊!!!
作者: 老实人    时间: 2012-7-24 11:38
真的是华山论剑的感觉!!

精辟,开始崇拜laochen!!!
作者: 歌者乐山    时间: 2012-7-25 22:34
招投标制度,是市场经济的产物,必然遵循市场经济规律,其核心是社会分工下的市场竞争。

       市场竞争,最终目的是实现资源优化配置,而不应是反腐。在市场经济条件下,只要投资主体不缺位,腐败是不可思议的。由于我国经济高速发展三十年,政府公权力介入市场经济活动过深,必然导致经济发展成果大部分掌握在政府手中。由于政府是微观的各种部门和领导、办事员等个人组成的,后者只是“代表人民”行使权力,不是“投资者本身”,公家的好处不拿白不拿,腐败现象因运而生。归根到底,腐败是投资主体缺位所造成的。
       以上,是西方经济学家对腐败的经济学解释。个人认为,有一定道理,但不完全对。

       反腐不应是政府的目的,政府的目的应是建立健全社会主义市场经济,是让市场主体真正成为市场主体。以反腐的名义,借助行政手段,不顾经济规律地非法干预经济运行,注定不可持久。




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