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标题: 邀请招标不仅要发公告还要资格预审【转贴+点评】 [打印本页]

作者: gzztitc    时间: 2008-11-6 10:20
标题: 邀请招标不仅要发公告还要资格预审【转贴+点评】
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 22&#46;1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1&#46;0"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 22pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">邀请招标不仅要发公告还要资格预审</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 22pt"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p /></font></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"> </font></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 15&#46;75pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1&#46;5"><font size="3"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">【<span style="COLOR: blue">转载者点评:这是一个值得分析参考的好案例。但是,笔者对文章的分析和结论和结论却有着不同的看法。从国际惯例来看,邀请招标与公开招标的最大区别,就是不发“招标公告”,而是直接向潜在的</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">家以上(可能是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">-</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">家)投标人发出“招标邀请”(必要时,采取邀请招标的方式需经过主管部门批准)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><font face="Times New Roman">,</font></span><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">而且,再也不搞“资格预审”而是“资格后审”。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><p /></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 15&#46;75pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1&#46;5"><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"> </font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 15&#46;75pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1&#46;5"><font size="3"><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">对政府采购中的邀请招标,要求采取“发布公告”的做法,是没有道理和不符合国际惯例的。是一种“四不像”的管理办法。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><p /></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 15&#46;75pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1&#46;5"><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"> </font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 15&#46;75pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1&#46;5"><font size="3"><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">本案例中,对于投标人的资格要求是【符合《中华人民共和国政府采购法》第二十二条的规定;通过去年某市政府采购中心×监测仪器项目公开招标活动确定入围的供应商】。笔者以为,这句话的前半部分</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><font face="Times New Roman">[</font></span><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">符合《中华人民共和国政府采购法》第二十二条的规定;</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><font face="Times New Roman">]</font></span><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">成为“虚的”条件;而</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><font face="Times New Roman">[</font></span><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">通过去年某市政府采购中心×监测仪器项目公开招标活动确定入围的供应商</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><font face="Times New Roman">]</font></span><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">成为实的必须条件。这样,就排斥了新的潜在的符合政府采购第</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><font face="Times New Roman">22</font></span><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">条规定的其他供应商。这样等于含有“歧视性”的因素。所以,笔者怀疑,该项目的邀请对象的范围可能不狠公平公正。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><p /></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 15&#46;75pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1&#46;5"><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"> </font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 15&#46;75pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1&#46;5"><font size="3"><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">目前国内的采购招标实例中,邀请招标的不多。笔者以为,那需要“招标人”有一个明确的认识;主管部门审批的难度也比较大。种种问题这里就不详述了。还可以参考中国采购与招标网的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><font face="Times New Roman">BBS</font></span><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">上面有关讨论<personname w:st="on" productid="和唐广庆">和唐广庆</personname>老师的答复意见。网址是:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><p /></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 15&#46;75pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1&#46;5"><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: blue"><a href="http://www&#46;ctba&#46;org&#46;cn/bbs/seeRetopic&#46;jsp?topicid=548"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#800080" size="3">http://www&#46;ctba&#46; ... #46;jsp?topicid=548</font></a><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"> <span style="mso-spacerun: yes">          </span>Gzztitc</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman""><font size="3">】</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"> </font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 63pt; mso-char-indent-count: 6&#46;0"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><chsdate w:st="on" year="2008" month="11" day="4" islunardate="False" isrocdate="False"><span lang="EN-US">2008-11-4</span></chsdate><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span></span></font><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">来源:政府采购信息报</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><font face="Times New Roman">  </font></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">作者:万玉涛</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"> </font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman""><font size="3">  “我们采用的是邀请招标,我们邀请的供应商必须满足一定的条件。你们不是去年某市政府采购中心组织的某监测仪器的入围供应商,所以你们不能参与这个项目的投标。”近日,某单位因为这句话遭到了供应商的投诉。</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman""><font size="3">  </font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><font size="3"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">  没有资格的为何投诉</span><span lang="EN-US"><p /></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman""><font size="3">  </font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="3"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">  据了解,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">10</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">月上旬,某单位决定开始就其所需的监测仪器实行邀请招标。经过一段时间的准备后,</span><chsdate w:st="on" year="2008" month="10" day="17" islunardate="False" isrocdate="False"><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #993300"><font face="Times New Roman">10</font></span><span style="COLOR: #993300; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">月</span><span lang="EN-US" style="COLOR: #993300"><font face="Times New Roman">17</font></span><span style="COLOR: #993300; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">日</span></chsdate><span style="COLOR: #993300; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">,某单位发布了邀请招标公告</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">。<span style="COLOR: green">根据邀请招标公告,投标人的条件为“符合《中华人民共和国政府采购法》第二十二条的规定;通过去年某市政府采购中心×监测仪器项目公开招标活动确定入围的供应商”</span>。看到邀请招标公告后,成立不久的</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">S</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">公司虽然不是某市政府采购中心去年×监测仪器项目采购的入围供应商,但还是很想参与某单位组织的这次采购。于是,一看到邀请招标公告,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">S</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">公司便到某单位去购买招标文件。但却遭到了某单位的拒绝:“<span style="COLOR: green">……你们不具备这次招标的资质,所以你们没有机会参与该项目的投标,以后有机会你们再来吧……</span>”</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman""><font size="3">  </font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><font size="3"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">  在遭到拒绝后,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">S</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">公司向当地的政府采购代理机构咨询了邀请招标的相关规定。</span><chsdate w:st="on" year="2008" month="10" day="23" islunardate="False" isrocdate="False"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">10</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">月</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">23</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">日</span></chsdate><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">S</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">公司向当地财政部门提起了投诉:某单位近日组织的监测仪器项目的邀请招标不符合政府采购的相关规定……</span></font></p>
作者: gzztitc    时间: 2008-11-6 10:21
<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\"><font size=\"3\"> </font></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><font size=\"3\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">  资格预审有严格程序</span><span lang=\"EN-US\"><p /></span></font></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\"><font size=\"3\">  </font></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\"><font size=\"3\">  据了解,在具体的采购实践中,不少单位对邀请招标的做法都是发布邀请招标公告,并在邀请招标公告中明确投标人的资格。在出售招标文件时,便由出售招标文件的工作人员对供应商的资格进行审查……</font></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\"><font size=\"3\">  </font></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\"><font size=\"3\">  <span style=\"COLOR: #993300\">中国远东国际招标公司副总裁常路</span>提醒,<span style=\"COLOR: green\">邀请招标必须发布资格预审公告,而真正的资格预审是有严格程序的</span>,售招标文件的人随便看一眼供应商的相关资质并不等于搞了资格预审。法律专家指出,根据《政府采购货物和服务招标投标管理办法》第十五条的规定,采用邀请招标方式采购的,招标采购单位应当在省级以上人民政府财政部门指定的政府采购信息媒体发布资格预审公告,公布投标人资格条件,资格预审公告的期限不得少于七个工作日。投标人应当在资格预审公告期结束之日起三个工作日前,按公告要求提交资格证明文件。招标采购单位从评审合格投标人中通过随机方式选择三家以上的投标人,并向其发出投标邀请书。“采购人如需自行采购的,最好认真学习政府采购的相关规定。”</font></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\"><font size=\"3\">  </font></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\"><font size=\"3\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">  公开招标的效果更佳</span><span lang=\"EN-US\"><p /></span></font></b></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\"><font size=\"3\">  </font></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\"><font size=\"3\">  <span style=\"COLOR: green\">“有人说,邀请招标不发公告,招标文件只送几家,使整个招投标的时间大大缩短,招标费用也相应减少。这种认识是极端错误的。邀请招标不仅需要发公告,而且在操作中还多了一个资格预审的环节,所以需要的采购周期还更长。”</span>湖南某中介公司的老总指出。业界人士普遍认为,邀请招标中,不仅所需的时间更长,而且投标人的数目也很有限,竞争的范围当然就很有限,招标人拥有的选择余地就相对较小。其结果可能是,高价中标或者是将某些技术上或报价上更有竞争力的供应商或承包商遗漏;公开招标确定中标人的方式更好用,公开招标中,所有符合条件的法人或者其他组织都有机会参加投标,竞争的范围较广,竞争性体现得也更为充分,招标人拥有绝对的选择余地,容易获得最佳招标效果。因此,如果可能,最好选择公开招标的方式确定中标人。</font></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><font size=\"3\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">  </span><span lang=\"EN-US\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"> </font></span></font></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0\"><font size=\"3\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">责任编辑:蒋莉蓉</span><span lang=\"EN-US\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">3 </font></span><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">(色彩是转载者自己在学习时加描的,仅供参考)</span></font></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"><p><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"> </font></p></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0\"><font size=\"3\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">保存时间</span><span lang=\"EN-US\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">:<chsdate w:st=\"on\" year=\"2008\" month=\"11\" day=\"4\" islunardate=\"False\" isrocdate=\"False\">2008-11-4</chsdate> </font></span></font></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0\"><font size=\"3\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">原标题</span><span lang=\"EN-US\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">:</font></span><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">邀请招标不仅要发公告还要资格预审</span><span lang=\"EN-US\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">_</font></span><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">政府采购信息网</span></font></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">http://www&#46;caigou2003&am ... 244157&#46;html</font></span></p>
作者: 冬天    时间: 2008-11-7 15:52
那照这样认为,邀请招标根本就没有存在的意义了吗?

如果不是政府采购这样的说法对吗?
“有人说,邀请招标不发公告,招标文件只送几家,使整个招投标的时间大大缩短,招标费用也相应减少”
作者: pet2pet    时间: 2008-11-7 16:46
使整个招投标的时间大大缩短,招标费用也相应减少

时间能缩短多少?怎么缩短?

费用?少个公告费?少基本标书费?少几个供应商差旅费?
作者: ninger_85710    时间: 2008-11-25 10:49
邀请招标中的资格预审,鄙人感觉是不是说就是把公开招标中的商务或者技术条款中的部分先拿出来评啊?合格的就可以磋商价格方面的事项? [s:3]  [s:3]
作者: ninger_85710    时间: 2008-11-25 10:54
最后结果呢,我想投诉应该是可以成立的吧 [s:8]




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