联合国说：招标的目的之一是预防腐败

汉瓦

<span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align="center"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">《联合国反腐公约》摘录</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><p /></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align="center"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">第九条</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><p /></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-layout-grid-align: none" align="center"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">公共采购和公共财政管理</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><p /></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">一</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><font face="Times New Roman">&#46; </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">各缔约国均应当根据本国法律制度的基本原则采取必要步骤，<span style="COLOR: red">建立对预防腐败特别有效的以透明度、竞争和按客观标准决定为基础的适当的采购制度</span>。这类制度可以在适用时考虑到适当的最低限值，所涉及的方面应当包括：</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><p /></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">㈠</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">公开分发关于采购程序及合同的资料，包括招标的资料与授标相关的资料，使潜在投标人有充分时间准备和提交标书；</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><p /></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">㈡</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">事先确定参加的条件，包括甄选和授标标准以及投标规则，并予以公布；</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><p /></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">㈢</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">采用客观和事先确定的标准作出公共采购决定，以便于随后核查各项规则或者程序是否得到正确适用；</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><p /></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">㈣</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">建立有效的国内复审制度，包括有效的申诉制度，以确保在依照本款制定的规则未得到遵守时可以诉诸法律和进行法律救济；</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><p /></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">㈤</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">酌情采取措施，规范采购的负责人员的相关事项，例如特定公共采购中的利益关系申明、筛选程序和培训要求。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><p /></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align="center" /></span>

Laochan

<font color=\"#ff0000\" size=\"4\">《联合国反腐公约》是说，招标过程中应该防止腐败，而不是说，招标是为了防止腐败。</font>

我已开始练习

大型招标是为了平衡政治权势和财阀资本利益

越是大型的招标越是腐败

汉瓦

<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体\">试着从汉语语法角度分析：<span lang=\"EN-US\"><p /></span></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 28pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0\"><u><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">各缔约国</span></u><i style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">[</font></span></i><i style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">主语</span></i><i style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">]</font></span></i><i style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">均应当</span></i><i style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">[</font></span></i><i style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">状语</span></i><i style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">]</font></span></i><i style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">根据本国法律制度的基本原则采取必要步骤</span></i><i style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">[</font></span></i><i style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">条件状语</span></i><i style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">]</font></span></i><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">，</span></span /><u><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">建立</span></u><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">[</font></span><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">谓语</span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">]</font></span><u><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">对预防腐败特别有效的</span></u><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">[</font></span><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">定语，起修饰作用，修饰“采购制度”，隐含说明“采购制度”“对预防腐败特别有效”</span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">]</font></span><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">以透明度、竞争和按客观标准决定为基础的适当的</span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">[</font></span><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">定语，起限定作用，限定“采购制度”，隐含说明在采购中要以此类方式防止腐败</span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">]</font></span><u><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">采购制度</span></u><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">[</font></span><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">宾语</span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">]</font></span><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">。</span></span /><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black\"><p /></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black\"><p><font face=\"Times New Roman\"> </font></p></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">——说明“采购制度”对预防腐败特别有效。</span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black\"><p /></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">——说明应当建立“适当”的“采购制度”。</span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black\"><p /></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">——分析句子成份后，不难发现：建立“采购制度”的目的之一就是“预防腐败”（因为有效，所以建立），在采购制度中应当注意“适当”（即应该防止腐败）。</span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black\"><p /></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black\"><p><font face=\"Times New Roman\"> </font></p></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span class=\"tpccontent1\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana\">汉瓦和</span></span><span class=\"tpccontent1\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana\">Laochan</span></span><span class=\"tpccontent1\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana\">观点不同的是：<span style=\"COLOR: red\">招标目的之一是为了预防腐败。</span></span></span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt\"><p /></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">汉瓦和</span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Laochan</font></span><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">观点相同的是：</span><span class=\"tpccontent1\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana\">招标过程中应该防止腐败。</span></span><span class=\"tpccontent1\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana\"><p /></span></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span class=\"tpccontent1\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 13&#46;5pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana\"><p> </p></span></span></p>

gzztitc

这是另一个值得“辩论”的话题。

goldseason

&quot;招标目的之一是为了预防腐败&quot;


个人认为，“预防腐败”最多也只能算是“手段”，至于“目的”，可能还算不上。



比方说，一个员工在单位上班迟到了，单位在这个员工的工资里面扣10元钱，作为惩罚。


那我们问，“扣10元钱”是“目的”，还是“手段”呢？

bidboy

要说防止腐败最好是一个人一支笔说了算。那我只要管好这一个人就行了。

Laochan

<p><font color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"4\"></font></p><p><font color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"4\">请汉瓦先生不要将自己的观点强加于联合国！</font></p><p><font color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"4\">对母语的理解是从来不需要作语法分析的！</font></p><p><font color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"4\">你可以对英文版作语法分析。</font></p><p><font color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"4\"></font></p><p><font color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"4\">汉瓦先生的观点与laochan并无相同之处。</font></p>

汉瓦

<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">呵呵，容我先把我主贴的标题从“汉语语法”角度补充成一句完整的句子：</span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt\"><p /></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt\"><p><font face=\"Times New Roman\"> </font></p></span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\">从汉瓦个人对《联合国反腐公约》有关条款内容的理解出发，汉瓦个人认为这意味着“联合国说：招标的目的之一是预防腐败”</span><span style=\"COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"; mso-hansi-font-family: \"Times New Roman\"\"><font size=\"3\">。</font></span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"COLOR: red\"><p /></span></p>

汉瓦

<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">以语法并不严谨的文字回复七楼：<span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">Laochan</span><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">：请汉瓦先生不要将自己的观点强加于联合国！<span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_GB2312\">汉瓦：——这个，咱貌似不敢“强加”，就“联合国”而言，除了超级大国，估计没有谁能“强加”的了的。我认为是“个人理解”，<span lang=\"EN-US\">Laochan</span>前辈认为是“强加”，其实都是主观感受。当然这并不妨碍不同观点的展示。汉瓦依然客观的觉得是“个人理解”，汉瓦同时也把<span lang=\"EN-US\">Laochan</span>前辈帖子中的“强加”演变成字典里“个人理解”的含义的形式了。</span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_GB2312\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">Laochan</span><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">：对母语的理解是从来不需要作语法分析的！<span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_GB2312\">汉瓦：——这个，确实如此。不过，咱本来就是“试作分析”（呵呵，汉瓦不是语<personname w:st=\"on\" productid=\"文\" />文</personname />老师）。不过也正是对母语的热爱，才会以这种方式表达个人的观点，因为汉瓦知道，语法始终只是一根拐杖，在读不懂的时候帮你一把而已（不知道我找的拐杖牢靠否？）。再者，所谓对母语的理解从来不需要作语法的，无非也是人们对语法的忽略所致。中文世界为什么不讲究语法？因为普通的沟通没有困难，但在正式的法律条文中，汉语还是要讲究语法的。</span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_GB2312\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">Laochan</span><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">：你可以对英文版作语法分析。<span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_GB2312\">汉瓦：——这个，咱水平不够，而且也觉得没必要吧，汉语版本也是联合国<span lang=\"EN-US\">6</span>种文字的官方文件。或许有人会说，汉语不如英语不严谨，怎么说都行，歧义多，很多严谨的英语句子都不能翻译成准确汉语。事实上，如果严格按照语法，任何一个英语句子都可以严谨地翻译成唯一的汉语句子，没有任何歧义，如果不是唯一的，那说明是翻译有误了。如果<span lang=\"EN-US\">laochan</span>前辈对英文版的条文有兴趣作一语法分析，相信也有人愿意洗耳恭听的（汉瓦曾看过<span lang=\"EN-US\">laochan</span>前辈对招标翻译的研究贴）。</span></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_GB2312\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">Laochan</span><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 黑体\">：汉瓦先生的观点与<span lang=\"EN-US\">laochan</span>并无相同之处。<span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></p><p /><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LAYOUT-GRID-MODE: char; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-layout-grid-align: none\"><span style=\"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_GB2312\">汉瓦：——这个，这个。。。还望<span lang=\"EN-US\">laochan</span>前辈明示指教。<span lang=\"EN-US\"></span></span></p><p />