招标中的“讨厌”

王毅青

<h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-char-indent-size: 10&#46;5pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">前段时间听了几段郭德刚的相声，发现他最常用的一个词就是“讨厌”，</span> <span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">“讨厌”，一种情况是说的事情真的讨厌，一种情况是为了调侃。</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-char-indent-size: 10&#46;5pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">我发现“讨厌”这个词有时用起来挺有意思的，在招标过程中也碰到过很多令人讨厌的情况，总结了以下</span><span lang="EN-US">20</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">条，这些条是真的“讨厌”：</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-char-indent-size: 10&#46;5pt"><span lang="EN-US">1</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、报名时带证书原件、资格预审时留着证书原件、投标时又要求带证书原件还要现场核验，还要扣证书原件（除项目经理以外）；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0; mso-char-indent-size: 10&#46;5pt"><span lang="EN-US">2</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、踏勘现场下雨，组织的乱七八糟；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、开标会议领导迟到；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">4</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、一共就邀请了三家，截标时间已到就来了两家（居然前</span><span lang="EN-US">10</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">分钟联系时还说在路上）；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">5</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、招标文件价格没谱，图纸也卖钱；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">6</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、代理机构收到投标文件连个回执都没有给；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">7</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、开完标没交代投标人该干什么，之后没有音信；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">8</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、发现有个别投标人与业主方或代理机构工作人员嘁嘁嚓嚓；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">10</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、逮着一家一会儿澄清，一会儿问讯，就是没有人理其他投标人；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">11</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、抽到的评委就是不到场；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">12</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、业主方评委旁边还配的顾问；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">13</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、评标委员会摆谱，提的问题太幼稚，或投标文件里已经栽明没有看见；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">14</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、开完评完等结果又没了音信；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">15</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、没有日子退还投标保证金，多次联系未果；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">16</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、没按招标文件要求做投标文件，拿的是投别的项目的，或开标了找不到唱标单（不知塞的哪里去了）；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">17</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、代理机构工作人员摆谱，态度恶劣，业主方太“牛”；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">18</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、明明知道文件修改、澄清、补充需十五天前，结果之后又收到疑问（投标人）或补充（业主）；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">19</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、评标结果已经有了，领导又干预，让你定不成；</span></h6><h6 class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 150%"><span lang="EN-US">20</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">、通知你签合同了，甲方没有人管事（晾在那里了）。</span></h6><h6><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10&#46;5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-size: 12&#46;0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1&#46;0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes">    </span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10&#46;5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-size: 12&#46;0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1&#46;0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">看看大家还碰到过什么“讨厌”的事情，告诉一下，当然是带点“调侃”的比较好，可能会由开始“讨厌”的事情变成了后来“可乐”的事情呢。</span></h6>

人在天涯

三楼翻译的不错，终于能看清了 [s:2]
现在好多招标文件其实都是拿个文件改改项目名称等内容就发了，由于人员编制的水平不一，出现低级错误也是不可避免的。
所有现在急需招标公司间优胜略钛

markluyang

这周刚看见的，招的家具采购，结果一填表格：精神病中心，无语中……

王毅青

经常被专家搞的很没面子，还嫌劳务费少。业主想细细评，专家想早回家，干脆就说：没意见，挺全面的，打分、打分。。。。 [s:6]  [s:6]
唉！已经习惯了，不能报希望太大。
但也还是认真、负责的多。

bbbylkwhm

还有，评标过程中，业主代表不理会工作人员的提醒，对自己中意的单位基本打满分，而其他最低限度打分

bbbylkwhm

拿到招标人送来的清单，随便翻看一下，封面和总价表上价格不符；少了其他项目清单计价表等等
投标人拿到招标文件不仔细研究，前后联系的东西不看完整，随便提问题；评标过程中发现与招标文件规定不相符。（发标时千叮咛万嘱咐要认真看招标文件）

fyxx2008

我最揪心的是：开标前对业主说我们的专家技术如何如何，但到场的专家什么意见也不发表，让人很没有面子。
（来之前已向他介绍招标设备技术内容，他说他熟悉）

海龟子

最讨厌的就是招标过程中领导过度关心，搞得工作无法进行

24433752

大家说得太好了，深有同感

水莲儿

最讨厌小地方招标时,这个领导要&quot;参与&quot;,那个领导要&quot;关心&quot;,你都无法应付了.