标的是非法的招标活动，受招标投标法约束吗？

yqzgb

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2&#46;0"><font size="3"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">一个村民委员会对一块村集体土地（约</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">11</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">间地基，没有任何审批手续）组织向村民招标，也经过招标公告等程序，在投标的过程中有</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">个村民拿出</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">28</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">万买通其他投标人。结果这</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">11</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">间地基被这</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">名村民所得。事后有村民向纪委举报。现有几个问题请教各路大侠：</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 28&#46;5pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 28&#46;5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman""><span style="mso-list: Ignore"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">1、</font><span style="FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"">  </span></font></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman""><font size="3">这种招标投标活动受招标投标法约束吗？</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 28&#46;5pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 28&#46;5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman""><span style="mso-list: Ignore"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">2、</font><span style="FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"">  </span></font></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman""><font size="3">村民委员会组织的招标活动时，他的行政监督部门是哪个部门？</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 28&#46;5pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 28&#46;5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman""><span style="mso-list: Ignore"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">3、</font><span style="FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"">  </span></font></span></span><font size="3"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">象这个案例标的是非法（集体土地，</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">11</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">间地基，没有任何审批手续），他进行的招标活动合法吗？</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 28&#46;5pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 28&#46;5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman""><span style="mso-list: Ignore"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">4、</font><span style="FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"">  </span></font></span></span><font size="3"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">在这次招标活动中</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">名村民拿出</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">28</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">万元给另外村民，这种串通行为由哪级部门受理？</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 28&#46;5pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 28&#46;5pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman""><span style="mso-list: Ignore"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">5、</font><span style="FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"">  </span></font></span></span><font size="3"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">纪委或监察部门可以没收</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">28</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"">万元的非法所得吗？</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 28&#46;5pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman""><font size="3">有那路大侠经历过这种问题，请赐教！</font></span></p>

招标四有新人

标的是非法，招标自然无效

yqzgb

<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 28&#46;5pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 28&#46;5pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"mso-fareast-font-family: \"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><font size=\"3\">那问题“4、</font><span style=\"FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal\">  </span></font></span></span><font size=\"3\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \">在这次招标活动中</span><span lang=\"EN-US\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">2</font></span><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \">名村民拿出</span><span lang=\"EN-US\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">28</font></span><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \">万元给另外村民，这种串通行为由哪级部门受理？</span></font></p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 28&#46;5pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 28&#46;5pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"mso-fareast-font-family: \"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><font size=\"3\">           5、</font><span style=\"FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 7pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal\">  </span></font></span></span><font size=\"3\"><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \">纪委或监察部门可以没收</span><span lang=\"EN-US\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">28</font></span><span style=\"FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: \">万元的非法所得吗”？怎么解决？似乎无效了就没办法了。</span></font></p>

scdzzxx

集体土地还有这么值钱的啊?还拿28万元来买通?!
这是土地招标拍卖,应该由国土部门和监察部门监督。
认定串通投标罪就触犯刑律了，还什么什么哦，28万元当然由人民法院没收入国库！

yqzgb

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引用第3楼scdzzxx于2007-06-04 09:56发表的: 集体土地还有这么值钱的啊?还拿28万元来买通?! 这是土地招标拍卖,应该由国土部门和监察部门监督。认定串通投标罪就触犯刑律了，还什么什么哦，28万元当然由人民法院没收入国库！

</p><p>1、土地当然很值钱，“一寸土地一寸金”</p><p>2、土地招标拍卖是应该由国土部门和监察部门监督，关键是村民委员会将这块土地穿上看似合法的外衣，进行招标，这种行为按村民组织委员法还是按招标投标法或土地有关法处理？</p><p>3、认定性质由哪家部门？现在村民向监察局和纪委投诉，他们可以受理吗？现在28万元暂被监察部门扣押。</p>

jnqiu

本项目应由国土资源管理部门来负责,村级哪有此权限啊!

这个案例一看就是违法项目,还谈什么啊,

bidboy

自己都知道是非法的项目别说招标投标法了，什么法也保护不了啊！

标兵

不可能完全没收吧，顶多罚款

引用第3楼scdzzxx于2007-06-04 09:56发表的:
集体土地还有这么值钱的啊?还拿28万元来买通?!
这是土地招标拍卖,应该由国土部门和监察部门监督。
认定串通投标罪就触犯刑律了，还什么什么哦，28万元当然由人民法院没收入国库！

scdzzxx

如果成立的话,那28万元属于非法所得了,当然全部没收哦!

yqzgb

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引用第8楼scdzzxx于2007-06-12 10:47发表的: 如果成立的话,那28万元属于非法所得了,当然全部没收哦!

</p><p>现在这个案件监察部门正在处理。现在问题是“28万元属于非法所得”没收的主体是监察部门还是土地部门还是其他部门？请各位在线的大侠赐教！急</p>